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01 Aug, 2010 04:00 AM
THE Opposition has not added any further detail to its own climate change "direct action policy" since it was first announced at the start of February.

Opposition leader, Tony Abbott, released the policy after pressure from the Government to outline the Coalition's stance on climate change following the defeat of the emissions trading scheme (and the rolling of former leader Malcolm Turnbull, who had supported a scheme) in December last year.

The Opposition remains opposed to a carbon tax or price on carbon, and released a small amount of detail on specific incentives to help reduce carbon pollution, however there has been very little revealed on the policy since.

In April Mr Abbott told Rural Press that further details would be announced during the election campaign.

The Opposition policy unveiled in February promised to cut emissions to the same level as the Government using a market driven scheme based on rewards, not penalties.

The new policy, called a Direct Action Plan, promised to reduce Australia’s greenhouse gas emissions by five percent by 2020, as the Government's does, but without what Mr Abbott described as a "great big new tax on everything".

Paying farmers to build soil carbon, the planting of some 20 million new trees, and a major expansion of solar energy generation were major planks in the new policy.

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I think Tony should ask the Turnkrudd party what they are doing? http://www.twawki.com/?p=7799
Posted by twawki, 1/08/2010 11:13:39 AM
An iPhone App that lays out the case against catastrophic global warming. Has gone to No. 1 in Canada No.2 in the UK No. 3 in the US and No.5 in Australia. Only 40 hours after its release. Something that no politician could possibly ignore.
Posted by Qlander, 1/08/2010 4:32:36 PM
Stick to your guns on climate change Tony. No Big new tax on Carbon Dioxide emissions. Your the only one I've heard talk about direct action and for that I applaud. It shows a genuine commitment to the issue. You might like to add HFR Geothermal electricity generation to your list rather than throwing lots of money at far less efficient solar systems.
Posted by daw, 1/08/2010 8:54:08 PM
qlander - the skeptical science website is about getting skeptical about the skeptics and challenging the absurd position of deniers and skeptics. Have you seen the light and changed sides, promoting an app that dispels the skeptical science?
Posted by the lorax, 5/08/2010 12:11:25 PM
http://www.ourclimate.info/ About what I would expect from a climate gullible (opposite of skeptical) the lorax. Don't bother to do a bit of research and check ALL the facts for yourself.
Posted by Qlander, 5/08/2010 2:47:02 PM
my mistake qlander - the iPhone app i found form skeptical science is free, how come you have to pay for the one you showed. I look forward to exploring both of them - do you?
Posted by the lorax, 5/08/2010 9:05:30 PM
I check out sceptical science fairly regularly. The reason why you have to pay for the App is because funding is only available for alarmism; if you want the facts you have to pay yourself.
Posted by Qlander, 6/08/2010 9:13:03 AM
Qlander, you speak of alarmism from the AGW side and I find that i have to agree, the climate even when forced by human emissions is not that rapid, it will not affect what remains of mine or your life in any great meaningful way for thirty to seventy years so why the hell should we care. ALarmism however is rampant on the sceptics side. Any talk of action on emissions is immediately painted with the colours of communism, control, fascism, economic destruction, sending the world back to living in caves, the green agenda, vitriol and outright bullying. Take a deep breath and look at it rationally and try and take the fear out of it. What exactly will you lose by being more environmentally responsible? What is there to lose by acting on emissions and the impacts of a changing climate be it human induced or not? I don't believe you or what you stand for, I believe that the world is changing and that humans are very likely to be causing it and the consequences may be very difficult to deal with form a political, social, economic and environmental perspective, so I want action. I do not calculate my wealth in monetary terms, not in possessions nor in my status in society.
Posted by the lorax, 6/08/2010 11:01:47 AM
I also have as much right to the natural wonders of the world as any BHP shareholder, miner, executive or board member, I also have a right to participate in the process of determining how resources are managed just like anyone else without fear of recrimination or abuse. Why should my environment be stuffed up so someone else can have an extra tv in their bedroom.
Posted by the lorax, 6/08/2010 11:04:09 AM
Oh yeah, funding only for alarmism (I presume you mean AGW). That funding comes form the government and is declared but funding for the sceptics comes hidden form vested interests. One is accountable to the people and the other is accountable to shareholders, mmmmmm I wonder where the dodgy funding is. But we all know that AGW is a conspiracy, thousands of independent lines of investigation come to one conclusion but somehow it is all crap because Exxon told me so. climate change and emissions control is such an easy one for governments to get through I can see they are all champing at the bit to pass the laws and finding it so easy, no backlash, they have picked a winner. It would be much easier to shut our borders and pander to the racist fears for votes than introduce economic and environmental reforms that will benefit the nation for centuries.
Posted by the lorax, 6/08/2010 11:21:56 AM

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