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Accept climate science, economists told

29 Jun, 2010 10:03 AM
ECONOMISTS must trust predictions from climate scientists and stop tinkering around the edges of the climate change debate, according to a top federal bureaucrat.

The secretary of the Department of Climate Change and Energy Efficiency, Martin Parkinson, used the 2010 Sir Leslie Melville lecture to argue economists had not been adding enough to the national carbon pricing conversation.

''Despite 15 years of thinking on this issue, there are few Australian economists who could discuss any of the emissions trading scheme's design concepts, choices and trade-offs in detail,'' Dr Parkinson said.

The lecture at the Australian National University in Canberra was the ninth of its kind to honour Sir Leslie Melville, the late executive director for Australia at the International Monetary Fund and World Bank.

Dr Parkinson said foresight of the kind Sir Leslie had would be needed to introduce an emissions trading scheme.

Economists Ross Garnaut and Warwick McKibbin were, in Dr Parkinson's words, two rarities who had the in-depth knowledge of abatement schemes needed to lower carbon use.

Dr Parkinson, an economist and former Australian Treasury deputy secretary, said the economic community needed to embrace a gradual transition to greenhouse gas reduction.

''Economists prefer to be pure in their proposed solutions to problems and are suspicious of politically negotiated outcomes and transitional assistance,'' he said.

There have been unsuccessful attempts to introduce a carbon price for 15 years.

Dr Parkinson said this should not be considered failed economic reform.

The GST was an example of a policy discussed and attempted 15 years before being brought in.

''Tariff reform was formally proposed by the Tariff Board in the mid-1960s ... and debate has continued over the 40-plus years since the Tariff Board's original proposals.

''Stiff opposition was a regular occurrence in relation to proposals to reform indirect taxation, the labour market and tariffs.

''For example, the gold industry was adamant that it would cease if gold's tax exempt status were removed.''

Lack of serious engagement from economists about climate change had deprived the public of important information. He put forward the argument that economists should believe in climate change because of the evidence provided by the scientific community.

''It is probably reasonable that economists without expertise in the relevant scientific disciplines should let scientists be the professional experts in this area,'' he said.

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Well, who does this dude think he is? Sounds like just another ‘trust me, I am a bureaucrat from Canberra and I know what is best for you’ type. Is this the guy who is head of a Department that has nothing to do since KRudd backed out of the CPRS? Perhaps, instead of pleading with economists to support the flawed left-wing science that has dominated the climate change debate in recent years, the good Dr could do the honourable thing and resign his position and stop wasting valuable taxpayers' money propping up this hare-brained scheme. I wonder if the Dr has considered, for a moment, that many of my profession have actually considered, on balance, all of the available evidence and concluded that what is being proposed is an abject policy disaster for the country.
Posted by Dexter of Penrith, 30/06/2010 6:10:44 AM
Here is another one on the public payroll wanting to stay in a job that is based on false pretenses.
Posted by Kevin Gonmissin, 30/06/2010 6:54:28 AM
Economists! So we need economists in the climate debate. Might be a good idea if we got agreement in climate science to start with. It was Garnaud that said we should farm kangaroos instead of cattle, but never told us how! Yes, let's get them in. Something to lighten the day.
Posted by Roger Crook, 30/06/2010 8:02:39 AM
ABC Riverina morning show had an interveiw with two men currently traveling Australia holding forums stating that the world is in fact entering a 25-year cooling cycle. After the record low temps of the last few days how can the Australian citizen believe all the BS that we are going to be better off by paying massive new taxes which will not drop world temp by any degree. They also said that the current city weather recording stations have been moved over the years to airports and other locations which naturally have higher temps due to the tar runways and the air traffic and other stations have been affected by city growth. What will the government do to cool the cities? Tax the people who live there? Yes and all others as well. Man-made psyclogical brain washing climate change more likely.
Posted by Mark, 30/06/2010 8:11:46 AM
Ah, any mention of "climate' always brings out the frootloops.
Posted by Michael, 30/06/2010 9:24:09 AM
The reason economists are not engaged is that they understand how public servants like Martin Parkinson can stuff up a perfectly good market. The best response of governments to climate change, assuming it is real, is to do what the economists are doing - nothing.
Posted by dickytiger, 30/06/2010 11:51:41 AM
One ask who is the froot loop those who do not beleive all the brain washing crap dealt out by those set to make a huge amount of money by sucking in those who beleive the unproven science or those who do. Michael it sounds like you have been sucked in. Interesting how the beleivers always sink to attack the none beleivers but can not produce any factual evidence.
Posted by Mark, 30/06/2010 12:09:46 PM
Don't trust the climate 'scientists'. I have known many good scientists: and they don't engage in blackballing, witchhunts, namecalling, peer harassment, and manipulation and suppression of data. Climate science is manifesting as a cult religion, not as a search for knowledge. People who are sure they can't be wrong, usually are.
Posted by BT, 30/06/2010 12:13:58 PM
A one-liner from Michael has ten times the collective intelligence of the previous four posts, and we haven't heard yet from Loco or the Pm or any of the other intellectually challenged ratbags lurking out there. Incidentally, Dexter, are you really so stupid to say "many of my profession have actually considered, on balance, all of the available evidence and concluded that what is being proposed is an abject policy disaster for the country" without telling us what the"profession" is? Let me have a guess; does post hole digger sound about right?
Posted by Bushie Bill, 30/06/2010 12:18:29 PM
Sounds like one frustrated bureaucrat to me, either totally self-serving or just ignorant of the current economics literature that does demonstrate plenty of economists addressing climate change. Based on the article, his beef seems to be not that economists do not deal with the issue - but rather that they insist on calculating bothersome cost implications, instead of just joining the cheer squad unconditionally. It is utterly ironic that the "scientific consensus" on anthropogenic global warming is squarely based on models dodgier than those economists are routinely pilloried for. Small wonder many economists are sceptical about such a "consensus", even before calculating the costs and benefits.
Posted by morrgo, 30/06/2010 12:31:59 PM
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